The Biblical Definition of God

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Why Definitions Matter

The entire debate begins, not with some mysterious Greek word, but with the most basic of all questions: what does the word “God” mean in the Bible? You’d think this would be straightforward. Open Genesis, and there He is: YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But hand the same verse to a Trinitarian, and suddenly “God” magically transforms into “the Triune Being” — as if Moses secretly had Nicaea bookmarked in his Torah scroll.

This is the oldest trick in the apologetics book: smuggle your conclusion into the definition so that every verse automatically agrees with you. It’s theological forgery with a halo. When the Psalmist says, “You alone are God” (Psalm 86:10), the Hebrew reader hears exactly what it says: one God, one person. The Trinitarian, however, hears: “You alone are God — except for the Son, and the Spirit, who are also You, but not You, though one with You.” It’s as though “alone” suddenly developed multiple personality disorder.

The Bible’s authors never felt the need to stop mid-verse and explain, “By ‘God,’ we don’t actually mean the one we’re addressing directly. We mean a complex Being of three co-equal persons who share an essence. Hope that clears it up!” No, instead we find declarations like:

  • “To you it was shown, that you might know that the LORD (YHWH), He is God; there is none else besides Him”(Deut. 4:35).
  • “The LORD, He is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is none else” (Deut. 4:39).

Simple. Direct. Not in need of a theology degree to decode. Yet enter the Trinitarian magician, and with a wave of the homoousios wand, “God” now has three faces but is still “one.”

Why does this matter? Because if you let Trinitarians define “God” however they like, they can read their system back into any verse. Jesus says, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (Matt. 27:46) — and somehow that becomes “the divine nature crying out to the divine nature in a relational sense within the Triune Being.” Translation: words don’t mean what they say, they mean whatever the creed says they mean.

But Scripture never licenses this. The Bible defines God, and the Bible does so in human language, not philosophical jargon. When Paul writes, “there is one God, the Father” (1 Cor. 8:6), he didn’t pause to clarify, “and by ‘Father’ I mean the first person of the one Triune Being.” That entire system is an import. The apostles weren’t sitting around trying to reconcile Aristotle’s categories with Hebrew monotheism. They were declaring the Shema: “Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one” (Deut. 6:4).

Once you see the bait-and-switch, it becomes obvious why definitions matter. If you start with the Bible’s definition — “God” = YHWH, the one Lord, the Father — the text reads plainly. If you start with the Trinitarian definition — “God” = the Triune Being — every verse becomes a Rorschach test for theology students. The problem isn’t the Bible’s clarity. The problem is the theological smuggling ring at work in the pews.

“God” in the Torah

If you start at Genesis and keep reading through Deuteronomy, a very simple pattern hits you in the face: “God” almost always means one thing — YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There’s no sidebar footnote from Moses explaining, “By the way, this YHWH is actually three distinct hypostases co-inhering in one ousia.” What you do get is YHWH swearing by Himself, speaking in the singular, and insisting over and over again that there is none besides Him.

Take Deuteronomy 4:35: “To you it was shown, that you might know that YHWH, He is God; there is none else besides Him.” Notice the pronouns. “He is God.” Not “They are God.” Not “the Triune Being is God.” A single, personal subject. This verse is the Old Testament’s way of looking Trinitarians dead in the eye and saying, “Don’t even try it.”

Or Deuteronomy 4:39: “Know therefore this day, and lay it to your heart, that YHWH is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is none else.” Moses is not hedging. He’s not leaving interpretive room for a mystery council of three inside the divine nature. He’s hammering home one reality: YHWH alone is God.

And then we arrive at the classic: Deuteronomy 6:4–5. The Shema. “Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God, YHWH is one. And you shall love YHWH your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might.”

This is not a riddle. The Shema was recited daily by faithful Jews for centuries. If there were even a hint of plurality-in-unity hiding inside that word “one,” Israel somehow missed the memo for a thousand years. The text doesn’t say “YHWH is united,” or “YHWH is a complex oneness.” It says echad — one. A single subject. The same word used for “one king” (1 Sam. 11:7), “one man” (Judg. 20:8), “one altar” (Josh. 22:19). No committee, no council, no divine persons whispering to each other inside a shared essence.

And don’t overlook the verbs. Throughout the Torah, YHWH speaks in the first person: “I am YHWH your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt” (Exod. 20:2). Singular. Personal. Direct. Never: “We are YHWH your God, the Triune collective who brought you out.” No Israelite would have survived such a theological train wreck without demanding Moses hand back the tablets.

So, from Genesis to Deuteronomy, “God” has a crystal-clear referent: YHWH Himself, one person, one Lord. Trinitarians try to muddy this by pointing to Genesis 1:26 (“Let us make man in our image”) and pretending this one verse outweighs the hundreds of plain singular declarations. But context annihilates that claim. The very next verse switches right back to singular: “So God created man in His own image” (Gen. 1:27). The plural was never a divine roll call — it was royal or deliberative language, immediately clarified by the singular action.

Thus the Torah establishes the baseline definition. God = YHWH, the singular God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And this definition doesn’t quietly change when you flip the page. It is the identity statement that carries straight through Israel’s history, into the prophets, and — spoiler alert — into the New Testament, where Jesus Himself quotes the Shema as the first and greatest commandment.

“God” in the Prophets

The prophets thunder with one theme: God is one, and that one is YHWH, the Holy One of Israel.

Take Isaiah 43:10–11: “Before Me no god was formed, nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am YHWH, and besides Me there is no savior.” The language here is painfully obvious — singular pronouns stacked like bricks. “I, even I… besides Me.” The divine speaker doesn’t say “We, even We… besides Us.” Apparently Isaiah didn’t get the memo that grammar is supposed to be “mysterious.”

Then Isaiah 44:6–8. “I am the first and I am the last; besides Me there is no god… Is there a God besides Me? There is no Rock; I know not any.” If the Son and Spirit were separate divine persons, Isaiah just threw them under the bus by reporting YHWH saying He doesn’t even know they exist. Either Isaiah is a bad Trinitarian, or — stay with me — he’s a good monotheist.

And Isaiah won’t let up. 45:5–6: “I am YHWH, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God… I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, YHWH, do all these things.” Do you notice the pattern? Over and over: “I… there is no other.” If Trinitarians want to cram their three persons into this, they end up with God arguing with Himself while insisting He’s alone.

Now watch how Malachi reinforces the same identity. Malachi 2:10: “Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?” Here’s the fun part: the prophet doesn’t say, “Have we not three persons united in one divine essence?” He says one Father, one God. That’s the baseline Jewish confession — still intact right before the New Testament begins.

Hosea 13:4 clinches it: “You shall know no God but Me; for there is no savior besides Me.” Notice the exclusivity: “no God but Me.” Again, if you smuggle the Trinity in here, you’re left with the Father saying, “You shall know no God but Me — except for the other two persons who are also Me, but not Me.” Congratulations, you’ve turned prophecy into parody.

And this is the point: the prophets never, not once, redefine “God” into a committee. Their entire authority rests on the covenant made with the one God of the fathers. Every time they thunder against idols, they’re reinforcing that singular identity. The idea that Isaiah, Malachi, or Hosea secretly believed “God” meant three co-eternal persons is laughable. The prophets were already accused of blasphemy and rebellion often enough — inventing a three-in-one deity would have earned them stones before they ever got their scrolls copied.

So by the time you finish the prophets, you’re left with zero room for Trinitarian creativity. The Torah said God is one. The prophets shouted God is one. And not once do they soften that with a, “Well, He’s one in being but three in person.” That whole system is imported centuries later, built on top of the text rather than drawn from it.

YHWH as the Father

The first explicit references start as early as Deuteronomy. “Is He not your Father, who created you, who made you and established you?” (Deut. 32:6). Israel didn’t need Augustine to explain this. YHWH was their Father, their Creator. End of story.

Fast forward to Isaiah 63:16: “You, O YHWH, are our Father; our Redeemer from of old is Your name.” Again in Isaiah 64:8: “But now, O YHWH, You are our Father; we are the clay, and You our potter; we all are the work of Your hand.”Malachi 2:10 presses the same point: “Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?” Notice how naturally “Father” and “one God” go hand in hand. No philosophical gymnastics, no abstract “being.” The Father is God, period.

Now, here’s the killer blow. When Jesus walks into the New Testament, does He introduce a radically new category of “God-as-Trinity”? Not even once. Every time He opens His mouth about God, He identifies Him as the Father.

  • Matthew 5:16 — “…that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.”
  • Matthew 6:9 — “Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name.”
  • Matthew 10:20 — “…it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.”
  • Matthew 11:25 — “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth…”
  • Matthew 16:27 — “…the Son of Man is going to come with His angels in the glory of His Father…”
  • Matthew 18:14 — “…it is not the will of My Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.”
  • Matthew 23:9 — “And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.”

Mark echoes it:

  • Mark 8:38 — “…the Son of Man…when He comes in the glory of His Father…”
  • Mark 11:25 — “…forgive, if you have anything against anyone; so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you…”

Luke joins in:

  • Luke 10:21 — “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth…”
  • Luke 23:46 — “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit!”

John makes it unmistakable:

  • John 4:21 — “…the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.”
  • John 5:45 — “There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope… it is the Father who sent Me.”
  • John 6:27 — “…for on Him God the Father has set His seal.”
  • John 6:46 — “Not that anyone has seen the Father except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
  • John 8:54 — “It is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’” (Note carefully: Jesus identifies Israel’s God — YHWH — as His Father.)
  • John 14:28 — “…I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.”
  • John 17:1–3 — “Father… this is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”

And this is just the Gospels. Step into Paul, and the pattern hardens into stone:

  • Romans 1:7 — “…Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.”
  • 1 Corinthians 8:6 — “…for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.”
  • 2 Corinthians 1:3 — “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
  • Ephesians 4:6 — “…one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”
  • Philippians 4:20 — “To our God and Father be glory forever and ever.”
  • Colossians 1:3 — “We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
  • 1 Thessalonians 1:3 — “…before our God and Father.”
  • 2 Thessalonians 2:16 — “Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father…”

Peter follows suit:

  • 1 Peter 1:3 — “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!”

Even Revelation joins the chorus:

  • Revelation 1:6 — “…to Him who made us a kingdom, priests to His God and Father.”
  • Revelation 3:5 — “…I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.”

It’s a landslide. Verse after verse, Jesus and the apostles identify God as the Father. Not once does anyone slip in: “God — that is, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit together in one divine essence.” That’s the Trinitarian rewrite, centuries late to the party.

So here’s the logical takeaway: if YHWH is called Father in the Old Testament, and Jesus calls the Father “the only true God” in the New Testament (John 17:3), then the New Testament isn’t redefining “God.” It’s simply affirming what Israel already knew. God = YHWH = the Father. Period.

“God” in the Writings

Start with Psalm 86:10: “For You are great and do wondrous things; You alone are God.”
Not “You are three co-personal hypostases in eternal communion.” Not “You, in complicated metaphysical sense, are God.” Just You alone. The psalmist knew Hebrew, not Latin scholasticism. He didn’t accidentally forget to add, “Oh, and the Son and Spirit, of course.” If YHWH “alone” is God, then anyone else being called “God” is either false or subordinate by definition.

Next, Psalm 90:2: “Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.” The poetry here hammers a timeline: God has always been God, before creation and beyond it. Yet again, singular pronouns—You are God. Not “You all are God.” Not “the one essence comprising Father, Son, and Spirit is God.” It’s the direct address of worship: You, YHWH, are the eternal One.

Then Proverbs 30:4, the deliciously sarcastic riddle: “Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name? Surely you know!”
Trinitarians leap on this like it’s their golden ticket: “Aha! See, the Son was already known in Proverbs!” Calm down. The point here is rhetorical. It’s emphasizing how beyond human grasp God is, and the fact that both His name and His purposes are a mystery unless He reveals them. If anything, it highlights that God is one actor in creation—the one who ascends, who gathers, who wraps, who establishes. The “Son” reference is tantalizing, yes, but it is framed as a riddle: “Surely you know?” It underlines God’s incomprehensibility, not some hidden Trinitarian ontology.

And let’s not forget other Psalms:

  • Psalm 18:31 — “For who is God, but YHWH? And who is a rock, except our God?”
  • Psalm 83:18 — “That they may know that You alone, whose name is YHWH, are the Most High over all the earth.”
  • Psalm 100:3 — “Know that YHWH, He is God; it is He who made us, and we are His.”

Every line drives home the same identity: God = YHWH = one person. There’s no multiplicity hiding in the grammar. Hebrew poetry loves parallelism and repetition—it hammers truth into the heart. And the truth being hammered is this: the God of Israel is singular, personal, and exclusive.

Wisdom literature functions like Israel’s catechism. If you want to know who God is, you go to the Psalms and Proverbs, and they will tell you in every conceivable style—hymn, lament, proverb, riddle—that God is one. You won’t find the Trinity sneaking in through the back door. If anything, the language actively resists it. “Alone.” “You are God.” “Who is God but YHWH?” The vocabulary is deliberately unshared, uncompromising, and unambiguous.

So, by the time you finish the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings, you’ve got the same definition running like a refrain through every book. The Hebrew Bible defines God as YHWH, the one Father of Israel, the Creator of all. And when the New Testament picks up the story, it doesn’t invent a fresh definition—it carries this one forward intact.

Consistency into the New Testament

Take the most explicit line: John 17:3. Jesus lifts His eyes and prays, “This is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” There it is, tattooed on the forehead of the NT: the Father = the only true God. Not “the Father, Son, and Spirit together as one divine essence.” Jesus excludes Himself from the definition of “the only true God” and then identifies Himself as the one whom this God sent. Try twisting that into co-equality without breaking the text in half.

Then Paul, in case someone tries to wiggle: 1 Corinthians 8:6. “For us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.”That’s the Shema re-quoted with surgical clarity. “One God” = the Father. Jesus is Lord, yes, exalted, yes, but not collapsed into the definition of “God.” Paul is deliberately distinguishing the Father and the Son while still subordinating the Son’s role (“through whom”) to the Father’s primacy (“from whom”).

Ephesians 4:6 clinches it: “…one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.” Again, “one God” = “one Father.” Paul didn’t forget to add “the Son and Spirit too.” The Father is God. The others operate under Him.

Now here’s the kicker: out of over 1,300 uses of the word theos (“God”) in the New Testament, the Father is the referent the overwhelming majority of the time — easily 99%. Jesus is called “God” in a handful of debated passages (John 1:1, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Titus 2:13), but every one of those requires interpretive gymnastics and redefinition. In other words, when “God” naturally occurs, the writers mean the Father. When Trinitarians want “God” to mean Jesus, they have to argue, footnote, and redefine.

And let’s be honest: if Jesus were God in the same sense as the Father, you wouldn’t need to hunt for exceptions. It would be everywhere, shouted from every page. Instead, the actual data shows the opposite. The NT authors speak of Godalmost exclusively as the Father, and when they mention Jesus, it’s either “Lord” or “Christ.” The imbalance is not subtle; it’s overwhelming.

Which leaves us with the Trinitarian “exceptions.” They’re not natural readings of the text — they’re special pleadings. Take John 20:28 (“My Lord and my God”). Fine. But two verses later John gives us the purpose of his Gospel: “that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God” (20:31). Not “that you may believe Jesus is God Himself,” but “the Son of God.” Same story in Hebrews 1:8 — the “God” language is part of a Psalm quotation, and the very next verse contrasts the Son with “God, your God, who has anointed you.” That’s not equality; that’s hierarchy.

So the evidence is painfully consistent: Torah, Prophets, Writings — and now the Gospels and Epistles — define “God” as the Father. Trinitarians have to invent loopholes and exceptions to make their system work. But the natural, plain reading shows no shift in definition whatsoever. The New Testament simply carries the Old Testament’s God forward, with Jesus affirming Him as His own God and Father.

Why the Definition Matters for Interpretation

Start with the obvious: if “God” in Scripture = the Father, then verses like John 1:1 don’t magically become evidence of co-equality. The text says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Now, if you let “God” mean “the Father,” it reads cleanly: the Word was with the Father, and the Word was divine (God in quality, as the Father’s self-expression). But if you insist “God” = the Trinity, you’ve just produced the absurdity that the Word was with the Trinity while simultaneously being the Trinity. In other words, Jesus was both alongside Himself and inside Himself at the same time. Congratulations, you’ve turned John 1 into a theological comedy sketch.

Then Philippians 2:6 — the darling of every Trinitarian apologist. “Who, being in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.” If “God” = Father, this is a straightforward humility passage. Christ, though exalted as God’s unique image, did not grasp at equality with His Father, but humbled Himself. If “God” = Trinity, you’ve got Jesus refusing to grasp equality with… Himself? Or with His own shared being? It collapses into word salad faster than you can say homoousios.

Hebrews 1:8 is another one. “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.” Trinitarians leap on this like it’s the crown jewel. But they conveniently ignore verse 9, where the author clarifies: “Therefore God, your God, has anointed you.” If Jesus is God in the exact same sense as the Father, why does He have a God above Him? If “God” = Father, the passage is perfectly consistent: the Son is addressed in divine honor, but immediately subordinated under “God, your God.” If “God” = Trinity, you end up with God having a God — a theological merry-go-round that spins until the reader falls off.

This is why the definition matters. If you let the Bible define its own terms, every so-called “problem passage” evaporates. Jesus is exalted, but always in relation to His Father, never as part of a metaphysical trio. The apostles never smuggle in a second or third person into the identity of God. And most importantly, it prevents the “bait-and-switch” move Trinitarians love: start with “God” meaning Father, quote a verse, then quietly redefine “God” as “Trinity” so that by the end of the argument Jesus is the Triune Being in disguise. It’s sleight of hand, not exegesis.

In short: the Father is God, period. Keep that definition steady, and the entire Trinitarian scaffolding collapses under its own weight. The supposed “proof texts” stop proving anything, and Scripture regains the simple clarity it had all along.

Anticipating Trinitarian Pushback

1. “But Genesis 1:26 says, ‘Let us make man in our image’!”
The Hail Mary of Trinitarian proof-texting. They’ll insist this proves multiple divine persons, but the very next verse betrays them: “So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him” (Gen. 1:27). The plural vanishes instantly. Whatever the “us” is doing in verse 26 (royal speech, heavenly court address, or rhetorical deliberation), the actual act of creation is carried out by one—not three.

And let’s not forget Hebrew grammar. Throughout the Torah, verbs and pronouns for God are overwhelmingly singular. If Genesis 1:26 were the secret unveiling of Trinitarianism, Moses somehow forgot to reinforce it in the next 50 chapters—or anywhere else in his writings. That’s not revelation; that’s bad storytelling.

2. “Progressive revelation! The Trinity wasn’t clear in the Old Testament, but it was revealed later.”
This is code for: “Yes, the OT says one God, one person, the Father, but we don’t like it, so let’s pretend God lied by omission for 1,500 years.” But Jesus Himself destroys this excuse. He quotes the Shema as the first and greatest commandment (Mark 12:29). If “progressive revelation” meant redefining God as a Trinity, Jesus missed the perfect chance to say, “Actually, Israel, your monotheism was just the starter course. Surprise, it’s three!” Instead, He reaffirmed the exact OT definition.

The apostles follow suit. Paul writes, “For us there is one God, the Father” (1 Cor. 8:6). John records Jesus calling the Father “the only true God” (John 17:3). Peter blesses “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 1:3). Where’s the “progressive revelation” of a tri-personal deity? Not in Scripture—only in post-biblical creeds.

3. “Redefining God post-Jesus isn’t heresy—it’s deeper theology!”
Galatians 1:8–9 begs to differ: “If we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.” The gospel Paul preached wasn’t “God is Triune.” It was: the one God, the Father, raised Jesus from the dead and made Him Lord. To insert a new definition of “God” after the fact is exactly what Paul warned against—another gospel. Dress it up in Greek words like ousia and hypostasis all you want, it’s still a counterfeit.

So these pushbacks don’t save Trinitarianism; they expose it. Genesis 1:26 doesn’t change the singular pattern of Scripture. “Progressive revelation” is a smokescreen for contradiction. And redefining “God” after Jesus called His Father the only true God? That isn’t orthodoxy—it’s heresy, straight out of Paul’s blacklist.

Closing Declaration

From beginning to end, the Bible defines “God” with an unbroken line of clarity. In the Torah, He is YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, speaking in the singular: “I am YHWH, and there is no other” (Deut. 4:39). In the Prophets, He thunders: “Before Me no god was formed, nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am YHWH, and besides Me there is no savior” (Isa. 43:10–11). In the Writings, the psalmists sing: “You alone are God” (Ps. 86:10).

When the New Testament arrives, it doesn’t shift definitions; it simply puts a face on the relationship. Jesus doesn’t introduce a three-person mystery. He calls YHWH His Father and declares, “This is eternal life, that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17:3). Paul echoes the Shema with surgical precision: “For us there is one God, the Father” (1 Cor. 8:6). The apostles bless “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (Eph. 1:3; 1 Pet. 1:3). Over 99% of the time, when the NT says “God,” it means the Father.

There is no doctrinal evolution, no progressive revelation of a tri-personal essence hiding in the text. The definition remains the same from Moses to Malachi, from Jesus to John. The one God is the Father, YHWH, the God of Israel. That definition is the bedrock on which all of Scripture stands.

Which means this: if you change the definition of God, you’re not defending the Bible — you’re replacing it. You’re swapping the Shema for a creed, the prophets for philosophy, and the words of Jesus for the words of bishops. And that’s not faithfulness; that’s fraud dressed up in theology robes.

One response to “The Biblical Definition of God”

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    austin Edwards

    Hey, I think most of the duality stuff(your Philo stuff) stuff comes from Jesus himself, stuff like John 3:6 and no bad tree can produce good fruit(others too but they don’t come to mind, and I don’t have much time)(i also know that you’re saying there is a subtle different but i don’t think you’ve bore(?) out that subtle difference). I think these verses also imply incarnation. I don’t think incarnation or preexistence mean that the father is equal with the son. I don’t think they mean that jesus isn’t a normal human like us. I guess how I would answer it is that we all incarnated(we were a seed in heaven before). I don’t know if mainstream christianity agrees or if it is considered gnostic or wwhat it entails etc. I think jesus says this with the tree parable and the seed parable. I guess im thinking that we are like jesus in that we came from God the father ultimately, like a son of man. It’s whether we are the earth or whether we are the spirit breathed into adam I guess. I gtg

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